"I told thee I spoke not to drive thee to an end. If I spoke to Asmodean, I would have an end. I would tell him to break with Sagramore, then pretend I knew nothing of it, and comfort him through his heartache." It's a rather miserable thing to admit. "If I told thee how to deal with him, it would be no better -- only using thee as a proxy for me, a piece upon the board. I suspect the answer lies closer to thy way than mine. To be direct, rather than make deals in secret."